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Because criminals are renowned for their honesty, right?</p>\n\n\n\n<p>Staying on the ransomware theme, we wonder whether Garmin could –&nbsp;or should –&nbsp;have learned lessons from Travelex&#8217;s new year nightmare and Norsk Hydro&#8217;s run in with LockerGoga in 2019.</p>\n\n\n\n<p>We also take a look at app sec with Sean Wright, Mr App Sec himself at Immersive Labs and our guest for this week.</p>\n\n\n\n<p>Incidentally, Immersive Labs released three new labs on WastedLocker this week, so if you want to learn more about how it works and the part it played in the Garmin hack, <a href=\"https://www.immersivelabs.com/resources/blog/from-decisions-to-decryption-live-the-garmin-ransomware-attack-with-immersive-labs/\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" target=\"_blank\">head over to this blog</a>. If you already have a license (alright, no need to boast), <a href=\"https://immersivelabs.online/\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" target=\"_blank\">log in here</a>.</p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Garmin WastedLocker attack</strong><br><a href=\"https://www.forbes.com/sites/leemathews/2020/07/23/garmins-alleged-ransomware-wastedlocker-evil-corp\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">https://www.forbes.com/sites/leemathews/2020/07/23/garmins-alleged-ransomware-wastedlocker-evil-corp</a></p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Blackbaud pay the ransom</strong><br><a href=\"https://www.computerweekly.com/news/252486910/List-of-Blackbaud-breach-victims-tops-120\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">https://www.computerweekly.com/news/252486910/List-of-Blackbaud-breach-victims-tops-120</a></p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"width: 100%; height: 170px; margin-bottom: 20px; border-radius: 10px; overflow: hidden;\"><iframe style=\"width: 100%; height: 170px;\" frameborder=\"no\" scrolling=\"no\" allow=\"autoplay\" seamless=\"\" src=\"https://player.captivate.fm/episode/68e40f78-6ad5-47d1-a0f8-ebf1d40fe58c\"></iframe></div>\n\n\n\n<h2>About Cyber Humanity</h2>\n\n\n\n<p><strong><em>The podcast taking cybersecurity personally</em></strong><br>There&#8217;s a lot of cool techy stuff going down in cybersecurity, and we love it. But you can&#8217;t deny that a lot the time we humans get forgotten. Our podcast takes a not-so-serious look at issues in security from a human point of view. Covering social engineering to hacker motivations and everything in between, we chat through security stories and themes and what they mean to us: the oft-neglected humans behind the screen. Apart from Kev, Kev is a cyborg.</p>\n\n\n\n<p>These weekly podcasts come in two main flavors. 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